child is like a sapling. In the
beginning, as he establishes a
foothold in this world of adults
he spreads his branches out
wide in all directions. He
questions about and everything.
How does that work?, What is
over there?. He does so hoping
to reach the sky which of course,
is the answer to everything.
In his innocence he doesnt
realise that the sky is still well
beyond his reach. If his questions
are not answered with love and
patience, we make break his
tiny, fragile branches, and his
eagerness to learn about life and
With a broken spirit the
child grows up to be a man with
little eagerness in life. He has no
branches, thus disabling him
from reaching out to others, and
most important, he has no shade
to protect the next generation of
saplings from the scorching sun
which is the bad in our society.
Swamishri always has time for
children. Not just to play with
them, but also to guide them
and teach them. His answers
reflect patience and concern.
He takes them seriously
because he takes thefuture
seriously. And so, through his
answers we can see him -
Sowing the seeds of our future...
Nimesh: Why does everyone call you Bapa?
Swamishri : We became Yogi Bapas, so because of him, everyone
calls us Bapa. You know that everyone calls Yogi Bapa - Bapa? Its
like that. However, we are not Bapa but we are servants. By Yogi
Bapas blessings, people call us Bapa.
Siddharth : Where is your home?
Swamishri : Our home is Akshardham. We all have to go to Akshardham;
thats our true home. All these houses will fall down some
day. They are temporary. In Akshardham everything is calm even if
there is a hurricane or heavy rainfall! The sun doesnt burn,
one doesnt even feel hot; in fact nothing happens. Thats
what type of house it is. There we just do bhajan and please Shriji
Brijesh : Do you ever talk with Shriji Maharaj?
Swamishri : We remember Maharaj everyday. We do talk to Him, but
how? We do bhajan and sing kirtans, but we always keep God with
us. Thats all we have to do and thats all we have to
think. He hears us. If we pray to Him, He listens to our prayers.
If you do it with pure bhakti and love from the heart, God hears
everything we want to say to Him.
Mitesh : What is the most memorable incident in your whole life?
Swamishri : That I met Shastriji Maharaj and Yogiji Maharaj. To
do bhajan of God is the most important incident in our lives.
Yogesh : We have to live in two different worlds, Satsang and society,
as in school and friends. But we cannot balance our lives between
the two. How can we find a balance?
Swamishri : We come here in Satsang and yet we also have to work
with our friends. But if we are to remain unaffected by the outside
environment and keep Satsang firm then we need a guru. He will help
us balance our lives. You all come here to the kishore and yuvak
mandal. So if you get more involved here, you will be less influenced
by the outside world. The more we stay in contact with Satsang,
the less our friends outside will be able to influence us. Then
we will be able to study better and even make new friends in Satsang.
In brief, if we find Satsang, find a true guru then our lives will
remain balanced. A guru looks after us in all matters, How
often do you come to Satsang? How often do you go out elsewhere?
Have we become influenced by the outside world? If we can
love him as much as he loves us, and develop atmabuddhi with him,
our lives will remain balanced.
Aastik : Swami! We come to the temple regularly and do bhajan-bhakti.
But we still experience pain and misery in our lives.
Swamishri : As your name is Aastik, you wont have any problems.
If one keeps faith in God, everything works out for him. We must
be firm that this is God, that only God gives us happiness,
and even in times of joy or pain, God only does whats best.
If we keep such beliefs then well be happy.
Those who do not worship God and who do not come to the temple may
appear to be happy, but that happiness is only on the outside. What
does Gunatitanand Swami tell us? Poisoned sweets taste nice
in the beginning but afterwards theyll kill you. Similarly,
worldly pleasures such as eating at restaurants, drinking in bars,
going to parties or to the cinema all seem like fun. A rich man
may drive an expensive car but if he doesnt believe in God,
then in his heart he will be burning. Hell always feel miserable.
We travel all over the world. Weve met millionaires, billionaires
and even they have problems! With their children, with their wives,
in fact they have many types of problems. Only those who have met
God and His Saint are truly happy. Narsinh Mehta had nothing, but
he had met God and so he was happy. Buying a nice house or being
promoted to a high position is not happiness. In fact these things
only create more misery for us. We have seen many men in that state.
Mirabai was a queen; nevertheless she renounced her kingdom and
all the worldly pleasures and went to worship God. In Shriji Maharajs
time, many discarded the worldly pleasures and came to Him to become
sadhus. If there was misery in worshipping God, why would they all
come here? But they had realised that true happiness lies only in
When you go to school wearing a tilak-chandlo, some may insult you.
And yet nobody ever insults a man who is drunk! Whenever we try
to do good deeds, we will always face opposition. But we shouldnt
give up the road to God. So what if there are hardships? Ultimately
there is happiness. Those people are enjoying' themselves
now, but ultimately they will be miserable. At the end of their
road is suffering, not redemption. So we shouldnt let go of
our dharma for the worldly pleasures we see outside - even if we
have to suffer. The Pandavas suffered. Dada Khachar suffered. All
great devotees have had to suffer but as they kept faith in God
their names have become imprinted in history books.
Even if we may get only a small amount of money, earn it by honourable
means. Live according to dharma. Money obtained by cheating and
adharma will never make you happy.
Yogesh : How can we keep more faith and trust in Shriji Maharaj
Swamishri : When do we trust a man? When we realise his greatness.
Then we see him as honest, respectable and honourable, he does no
bad deeds. And when he says something, we readily believe him. So
if we can first realise his greatness, understand his life and his
mission and if we can see divinity in him, then we will be able
to trust him.
Millions worship Lord Rama. They have faith that he is God and
that he never did any wrong in his life. They believe that his only
aim in life was to redeem everyone. Only then do people worship
him! God and the Satpurush want to redeem everyone. Yogiji Maharaj
tells us, We should never eat out. Never watch films or plays.
Never do wrong, never steal.... Why did he tell us these things?
Because you are young, if you develop such bad habits from now,
you will end up in trouble. But if we are keen to please him, then
we will do as he says and thus we will be happy. Well also
be able to trust him.
We trust our teachers in school, dont we? We trust them because
we know that they are learned and we can attain knowledge from them.
So we study the way they tell us to. In the same way, God has divinity,
He has good qualities and He wishes good things for all. He is beyond
this world. That is why we should keep faith in Him to experience
In short, if we can realise His greatness then we can trust Him;
if we can trust Him, then we will be redeemed.
Toast Master : We have met an ideal guru but his disciples should
be ideal too. How can we become ideal?
Swamishri : We have met an ideal guru. But only if we follow his
agna will we become ideal. And if we dont obey him, how can
we ever become ideal?
If he tells us not to watch TV and we still sit down to watch it,
what will become of us? If he tells us not to eat out and then we
go and do just that, how can we become ideal. Ideal means ideal!
We must do only as he says and nothing else. Have we ever told you
to stop eating? But dont eat meat. Drink as much as you like,
drink water or soft drinks. That other drink (beer), thats
not good for you. We become overexcited by taking abuse inciting
substances, then we go around and abuse other people. In such a
state do we have control over what we say and do? But if we experience
the ecstasy of God, we can become ideal.
Narsinh, the 500 paramhansas, Yogiji Maharaj - they all experienced
the ecstasy of God; therefore they lived tension-free and happy
So children, all of you should stay away from intoxicating substances
(drugs). You may get a kick from them but afterwards
you suffer withdrawal symptoms. In fact, you shouldnt eat
anything from outside such as restaurants or amusement parks.
Secondly, if you want to excel in your studies and earn a degree,
then you must stop watching TV. But just by us saying, go
child, youll become perfect wont help you, achieve anything.
Satyakaam Jabali went to a guru to attain knowledge. Instead his
guru sent Satyakaam to graze his cattle. What if your guru tells
you in college, go and clean the toilets, youd
say, do you think Ive come here to clean toilets?
But Satyakaam had decided to do whatever his guru commanded. We
should never question any agna. We will be enlightened only if we
do not doubt his words. In this way Bhagatji Maharaj followed Gunatitanand
Swamis agna without ever questioning him. Thus if we can realise
the importance of agna and follow it, we will become ideal.
(21 July 1994, Los Angeles)